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INTERVIEW: John Mearsheimer on Israel-Gaza, US Support for Ukraine, & the Role of “America First” Foreign Policy
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October 31, 2023
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Good evening. It's Monday, October 30. 

A couple of months ago, we had on our program Professor John Mearsheimer, who is the Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of International Relations at the University of Chicago. He is widely heralded as one of the most influential foreign policy scholars in his field. He's also the co-author, along with Professor Stephen Walt, who we also had on our show, of the 2006 book “The Israel Lobby,” which seeks to explain why pro-Israel steadfast support has been a bipartisan policy in Washington for decades. 

The show that we had him on in late June was one of our most watched programs, in part because he brings such a counterbalance to the predominant narrative about how we should think about foreign policy, about how we should fight one war after the next. We focused on the war in Ukraine, our relationship with China, the threat of multipolarity, and whether it will replace U.S. hegemony. 

This time we focused a lot on the new war Israel and Gaza, the U.S. support for that war, as well as some recent updates about the war in Ukraine and how these two wars interacted in general. Professor Mearsheimer offered a particularly clear vision of how we ought to think about American foreign policy as we now are involved in two major wars with risk of escalation in each and the reasons why America seems instinctively, every time a new war is offered to involve itself in it. I found this discussion genuinely very illuminating, and I'm excited to show it to you because I think you will as well.

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