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Judge Orders Hearing on Columbia Student Deportation Case; Is the Ukraine Ceasefire Plan Serious? Trump Attacks Thomas Massie for His Budget Vote
System Update #422
March 17, 2025
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Tonight: A federal judge in New York held a hearing today on the attempted deportation of Columbia grad student and Green Card holder, Mahmoud Khalil, for the crime of protesting against Israel's wars. 

Among other things, a judge ordered that U.S. immigration officials allow him to speak with his lawyers and also set a date for a hearing to examine the constitutional and free speech rights at issue. 

We'll examine that and we'll also show you part of the debate I was able to participate in on Israel and free speech earlier today on Fox News on Will Cain's show. 

Then: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy agreed to a 30-day cease-fire requested by the Trump administration. As a result, the White House announced that it was lifting its one-day suspension on intelligence sharing and other assistance to Ukraine. Trump officials are now waiting to hear whether Russia will agree to those terms as well. 

So, it leads to the question, is this really a serious step toward a diplomatic end to this horrific war or is this just a ploy by the Ukraine supporters surrounding Trump in the White House and the administration to convince him that the real problem is not Zelenskyy but Putin, and thus ensure the ongoing flow of U.S. financing of that war? I think that's an important question. I don't think it's an easy one to answer, so we'll do our best to delve into it. 

And then finally, Republican Congressman Thomas Massie of Kentucky on Tuesday did what he often does: he followed his principles and conscience rather than the mandates of political expediency by being the sole Republican in the House to vote against what is called a “continuing resolution”: essentially, a mechanism to keep the government operating even though none of the various budgetary and debt issues have been resolved. In response, Trump attacked Massie explicitly and on two occasions by comparing him to Liz Cheney and urging that Congressman Massie be removed from Congress by a primary challenge. We'll tell you about that and analyze all of its implications. 

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If you talk to any committed civil libertarian, any First Amendment lawyer, or free speech activist,  people who do that for a living, who have made those values central to their life's work, you will hear the same thing all the time, which is that most people – by no means all, but most people – embrace a cause of free speech whenever their side is out of power, or when the views that they like or their political allies are the targets of censorship. Those people will love free speech advocates, they'll support them and they'll applaud them. But the minute there's a change of power or the type of speech that is targeted with censorship changes, the allies of a civil libertarian or free speech advocate, as well as their opponents or enemies, will instantly change on a dime. 

It’s something that everybody who works on these issues is extremely accustomed to and it's not just that it can switch on a dime based on who's being censored this time as opposed to before. The exact argument that had been previously used by one side to justify censorship, to the great dismay and anger of the other side, suddenly becomes the exact argument the new censorship side starts embracing and you watch it happen and you're hearing the exact same arguments from the people who had spent years claiming they opposed censorship and it's hard to believe that they don't realize that what they're saying is exactly what they had spent years before insisting that they opposed. 

That is exactly what has been happening not just in Donald Trump's election, but since really October 7 and even before that, but really in earnest in October 7, we have had a series of very serious escalations in attempts to sanction and limit and control and punish political speech in the name of protecting Israel. We've had legislation designed to expand the definition of antisemitism in the educational context to include all sorts of common criticisms of this foreign state, so that in educational law now, you're allowed to say the United States is a racist entity, you're allowed to say that China's racist, you're allowed to say that Peru is racist, you're allowed to say that Indonesia is a racist and colonial power, but what you're not allowed to do is say that Israel is a racist or colonial project because that is considered antisemitism.

There are all sorts of other instances like that where special censorship rules have been created solely to protect this one foreign state. There are things you cannot say about this foreign government that you're totally free to say about your own government or any other government in the world. Perhaps the gravest and most serious censorship measure that arose from this attempt to shield Israel from criticism and out of concern, to stem the tide of declining support for Israel in the United States was the law that was passed by a bipartisan majority in both the House and the Senate and signed into law by President Biden that forced a sale and divestment of TikTok or the banning of that app, something that Trump for the moment has stopped, but which even sponsors of that bill said, very openly and very explicitly, that the reason they finally got the votes they needed to ban TikTok was because after October 7, there was a perception that young people were turning against Israel, it was urgent to stop them from doing that, and the two things they blamed for that were college campuses and TikTok and that's why college campuses and TikTok had become two of the main targets of censorship because there was an effort to try to ensure that people who were turning against Israel would no longer be able to hear criticisms of U.S. support for Israel, U.S. financing of the Israeli war in Gaza. 

Donald Trump was very open in the campaign about his intentions to punish students on college campuses who had been protesting the Biden administration support for Israel, who had been protesting the Israeli destruction of Gaza. As is true for most of Trump's campaign promises, his administration is making good on that. 

Trump’s administration is filled with loyalists of Israel. Of course, one of his biggest donors was the Israeli American donor, Miriam Adelson, who gave a hundred million dollars and by Trump's own admission said that in return for those donations that she and her now deceased husband, Sheldon Adelson, had been making to the Republican Party, they would constantly come and ask for things and demand things from the U.S. government in order to serve the interests of Israel. And they would often get it as a result of their status as big donors. So, all of this has a very broad, clear, and longstanding context out of which these censorship controversies are now emerging. 

But I don't think I really expected something quite as severe and as much of a deviation from the American tradition to happen so early in the Trump administration as is now happening with the attempt to deport the Columbia grad student Mahmoud Khalil who is married to an American citizen. His American wife is eight months pregnant. They're about to have a baby.

Typically, American citizens have the right to marry foreign nationals. And when they do marry foreign nationals, they have the right to bring those foreign nationals to live with them in the United States. They get green cards, and they ultimately are on the path to citizenship. Donald Trump twice did that with two different foreign women whom he married, one of whom is now the first lady, Melania Trump, and she was able to get citizenship based on that. 

There was never, ever this notion that green card holders in the United States were somehow barred from expressing controversy of political views, or criticizing the policies of the U.S. government, or engaging in political activism or political protest.  That's what makes the decision to target Mahmoud Khalil, as opposed to any of the other Columbia students who are only in the United States on a student visa, maybe for a couple of years. It would have been, I think, less controversial. That's what makes the decision to target him, in particular extra chilling, the fact that someone who's a green card holder, who's supposed to have the status of a permanent resident in the United States – I'm not suggesting that green card holders can never lose their status; they can and they have on rare occasions if they commit violent crimes – but having green card holders, especially ones married to American citizens, lose the right to stay in the United States and get arrested by immigration authorities and put into deportation as a result of their political views or their political activism is something that is extremely rare in American political history and yet that's what the Trump administration is doing in its second month in office, obviously as a means of shielding Israel from criticism and protest. 

Even if you're somebody who somehow thinks that this is justified, there's no question that it raises serious constitutional questions because nobody honest can possibly deny that there's a very strong political component to all this, that there's a very strong motivation that is based in the viewpoints that are expressed by Mahmoud Khalil that led to his activism. If he had been protesting in favor of Israel, if he had been protesting in support of Donald Trump, if he had been protesting against the governments of Iran, or Russia, or China, there wouldn't be any conservatives who would be demanding his deportation or justifying his deportation. 

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Trump and Rubio Apply Panama Regime Change Playbook to Venezuela; Michael Tracey is Kicked-Out of Epstein Press Conference
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 The Trump administration proudly announced yesterday that it blew up a small speedboat out of the water near Venezuela. It claimed that – without presenting even a shred of evidence – that the boat carried 11 members of the Tren de Aragua gang, and that the boat was filled with drugs. Secretary of State Marco Rubio – whose lifelong dream has been engineering coups and regime changes in Latin American countries like Venezuela and Cuba – claimed at first that the boat was headed toward the nearby island nation of Trinidad. But after President Trump claimed that the boat was actually headed to the United States, where it intended to drop all sorts of drugs into the country, Secretary of State Rubio changed his story to align with Trump's and claimed that the boat was, in fact, headed to the United States. 

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Minnesota Shooting Exploited to Impose AI Mass Surveillance; Taylor Lorenz on Dark Money Group Paying Dem Influencers, and the Online Safety Act
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There've been a lot of revelations over the last 25 years, since the 9/11 attack, of all sorts of secretive programs that were implemented in the dark that many people I think correctly view as un-American in the sense that they run a foul and constitute a direct assault on the rights, protections and guarantees that we all think define what it means to be an American. And a lot of that happened. In fact, much of it, one could say most of it, happened because of the fears and emotions that were generated quite predictably by the 9/11 attack in 2001 and also the anthrax attack, which followed along just about a month later, six weeks later. We've done an entire show on it because of its importance in escalating the fear level in the United States in the wake of 9/11, even though it's extremely mysterious – the whole thing, how it happened, how it was resolved. But the point is that the fear levels increased, the anger increased, the sadness over the victims increased and into that breach, into that highly emotional state, stepped both the government and their partners in the media, which essentially included all major media outlets at the time, to tell people they essentially have to give up their rights if they want to be safe from future terrorist attacks. 

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We are going to devote the show tonight to more questions that have come from our Locals members over the week. It continues to be some really interesting ones, raising all sorts of topics. 

We do have a question that we want to begin with that deals with what I think is the at least most discussed and talked about story of the day, if not the most important one, which is the school shooting that took place in a Catholic church in Minneapolis earlier today when a former student who attended that school went to the church, opened fire and shot 19 people, two of whom, young students between eight and ten, were killed. The other 17 were wounded, and amazingly, it’s expected that all of them are to survive. The carnage could have been much worse; the tragedy is manifest, however, and there is a lot of, as always, political commentary surrounding the mass shooting attempts to identify the ideology of the shooter in a way that is designed to promote a lot of people's political agenda. So, let's get to the first question.

 It is from @ZellFive, who's a member of our Locals community. He offers this question, but also a viewpoint that I think really ought to be considered by a lot more people. They write:

 

So, I'm really glad that this is one of the questions that we got today because this is a point I've been arguing for so long. So, let me just try to give you as many facts as I possibly can, facts that seem to be confirmed by law rather than just circulating on the internet. 

So, the suspected killer is somebody named Robin Westman, who is 23 years old. After they shot 19 people inside this church, killing two young children, they then committed suicide with a weapon. The person's birth name is Robert Westman, and around 16 or 17 years old, he decided that he identified as a woman, went to court, changed the legal name from Robert to Robin, and began identifying as a trans woman, so that obviously is going to provoke a lot of commentary, and there's been a lot of commentary provoked around that. We will definitely get to that. 

 

The suspected killer also left a very lengthy manifesto, a written manifesto which they filmed and uploaded on a video to YouTube, along with showing a huge arsenal of guns, including rifles and pistols and some automatic weapons. I believe various automatic rifles as well. I don't think they used any of those weapons at school. I believe they just used a rifle and a pistol, if I'm not mistaken. But we'll see about that. 

It was essentially a manifesto both in written terms, but then they also wrote various slogans on each of these weapons and various parts of the weapons. And we're going to go over a lot of what they put there because there's an obvious and instantaneous attempt, as there always is, to instantly exploit any of these shootings before the corpses are even removed from the ground. And I mean that literally. The effort already begins to inject partisan agenda, partisan ideology, ideological agendas to immediately try to depict the shooter as being representative of whatever faction the person offering this theory most hates or to claim that they're motivated by or an adherent of whatever ideology the person offering the theory most hates. And it happens in every single case. 

Oftentimes, there's an immediate attempt to squeeze some unrelated or perhaps even related agenda in and out of it instantly. Liberals almost always insist that whenever there's a mass shooting, it proves the need for a greater gun control without bothering to demonstrate whether the gun control they favor would have actually stopped the person from acquiring these weapons in the first place, whether they were legally acquired, whether they could have been legally acquired, even with gun control measures, it doesn't matter, instantaneously exploiting the emotions surrounding a shooting like this to try to increase support for gun control. Whereas people on the right often do the opposite. 

On the right, they typically will argue that more guns would have enabled somebody to neutralize the shooter more rapidly, that perhaps churches and schools need greater security. We need more police. So, there's that kind of an almost automatic and reflexive exploitation again, almost before anything is known, but there is an even more pernicious attempt to instantly declare that everyone knows the motives of the shooter, that they know the political outlook and perspective of the shooter. They know their partisan ideology and their ideological beliefs in an attempt to demonize whatever group a person hates most. 

This is unbelievably ignorant, deceitful and ill-advised for so many reasons. The first of which is that every single political action, every single ideological movement, produces evil mass shooters. For every far-leftist mass shooter that you want to show or white supremacist mass shooters that you want to show, you can show people who have murdered in defense of all kinds of causes. And so even if you can pinpoint the ideology of the shooter on the same day the shooting happened, I mean, you can develop a clear, reliable, concise and specific understanding of the shooter that you never even heard of until four hours ago, but you're so insightful, your investigative skills are so profound, that you're able to discern exactly what the motive of this person was in doing something so intrinsically insane and evil as shooting up a church filled with young school children. 

The idea that anyone can do that is preposterous on its face. I mean, the police always say, because they're actual investigators, actual law enforcement officers who want to collect evidence that stands up for public scrutiny and also in court, “We don't know yet what the motive is; we're collecting clues.” But almost nobody on Twitter or social media or in the commentariat is willing to say that. Everybody insists immediately, no, the killer was motivated by the other party, the opposite party of the one I'm a member of, or this ideology that's not mine, or in this religion that is the one I like the most to demonize. It's just so transparent and so blatant what is being done here. And yet it's so prevalent. 

I mean, you could go on to social media and principally the social media platform where the most journalists and political pundits, influencers and the like congregate, which is X, and I could show you probably 40 different theories offered definitively with an authoritative voice. Not like, hey, this might be possibly the case, but saying clearly, we know that the killer was motivated by this particular ideology, this particular set of beliefs. And I'm not talking about random X users, I'm talking about people with significant platforms, people who are well-known. 

I could probably show you 40 different theories like that, where every person is purporting to know definitively exactly what the motive of the shooter was and by huge coincidence they all have latched on to whatever ideology or faction or motive most serves their own political worldview to demonize the people with whom they most disagree, or whatever ideology or group of people they most hate. That's always what is done. And I guess in some cases, if a shooter leaves a particularly clear and coherent manifesto, and we have had those sometimes, we have had Anders Breivik in Norway, who made it very clear that his motive was hatred for Muslim immigrants who shot up a summer camp in Norway. We had the Christchurch, New Zealand killer who attacked two mosques and mass murdered dozens of Muslims at a mosque and made clear he was doing so because it was viewed that Islam is a danger. We had the mass shooter in a Buffalo supermarket, who made manifest their white supremacist views. We've had mass shooters who are motivated by hatred of Christianity, as happened in the Nashville shooter attack on a Christian school there, I mean, I could go on and on. 

As I said, every single political faction produces mass shooters, mass killers, evil, crazy people who use violence indiscriminately against innocents in advance of their beliefs. But most of the time, and you might even be able to say all of the times – I mean, maybe I don't like the phrase all of the times because you can conceive of exceptions, but close to all the time, most of the time, people who go and just randomly shoot at innocent people whom they don't know are above all else driven by mental illness and spiritual decay, not by political ideology or adherence to a political cause. That often is the pretext for what they're doing; that may be how they convince themselves that what they are doing is justified. But far more often than not, the principle overriding factor is the fact that the person is just mentally ill or spiritually broken, by which I mean just a completely nihilistic person who has given up on life and wants to just inflict suffering on other people because of the suffering that they feel or their suffering from delusions. 

And this isn't something I invented today. This is something I've long been saying. And I just want to make one more point, which is, even though there are sometimes manifestos that are extremely clear and say, “I am murdering people in a supermarket that is African-American because I hate Black people and I don't think they belong in the United States,” or “I believe that white people are the sole proper citizens of the United States and I want to murder and kill inspired by those other mass murderers” that I mentioned, even then, it may not be the case that the person's representation of what they're is the actual motive because it could be driven by a whole variety of other factors, including mental illness, or all kinds of other issues to be able to conclude in six hours, even with a crystal-clear manifesto that the person did it for reasons that you're ready to definitively assert are the reasons is so irresponsible. It's just so intellectually bankrupt. 

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