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How Endless War Bankrupted the US While Inflicting Mass Suffering at Home. Plus: Macron Threatens Internet Shutdown & Update on US Govt’s Private Data Purchases
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July 10, 2023
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Good evening. It's Thursday, July 6th.  Welcome to a new episode of System Update, our live nightly show that airs every Monday through Friday, at 7:00 pm Eastern, exclusively here on Rumble, the free speech alternative to YouTube.

Tonight: Is there any connection between the U.S. posture of Endless war and the declining quality of life for Americans at home? Put another way, if the U.S. Government every year transfers hundreds of billions of dollars to the arms industry, the CIA, and the Pentagon to fight and fuel wars – as the U.S. is now doing in Ukraine and has been doing non-stop for the last 25 years – will that have any negative effect on the ability and willingness of the U.S. Government to provide more opportunities and better living conditions for its citizens?

Until recently, those questions need not even be asked. Its truth was glaringly obvious. That Americans had to choose between "guns and butter" became such conventional wisdom that its original authorship is not certain; it's typically attributed to Secretary of State William Bryan, who resigned as Woodrow Wilson's Secretary of State in 1915, in protest of Wilson's obvious desire to involve the U.S. in the European War that became known as World War I, and in particular to the exploding costs of military spending, which he argued would destroy the American way of life at home. 

Yet somewhere along the way, it became controversial, almost taboo, in establishment discourse to recognize this connection. And it seems deliberate.

Last week, a pro-war outlet that alternates between neoliberalism and its close cousin neoconservatism – called the New Republic – attacked Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., the podcast host Jimmy Dore and myself for arguing that one reason to cease spending so much money on the proxy war in Ukraine – aside from the great danger of escalation between nuclear powers – is that that massive amount of money could find much better uses to improve the lives of American citizens – instead of fight over who will rule certain provinces in eastern Ukraine 

According to that article, our attempt to connect massive war spending in Ukraine and elsewhere with Americans' quality of life made us Kremlin propagandists – what doesn't do that these days? – but it reflects the growing refusal to acknowledge that massive, endless spending on the American war machine drowns the country in debt, which in turn limits the government's ability to attend to the needs of American citizens and improve the conditions of their lives.

Just today, the New York Times – a newspaper that has steadfastly supported Biden's proxy war spending in Ukraine – published an editorial warning, as the headline announced, that "America is Living on Borrowed Money." As a result, said the Paper of Record, Americans must brace for what the billionaire-owned paper called "painful choices" – namely, sharp cuts in the benefits most important to them: 

 

Democrats must recognize that changes to Social Security and Medicare, the major drivers of expected federal spending growth, should be on the table. Anything less will prove fiscally unsustainable. (The New York Times. July 6, 2023)

 

The one question not mentioned in the editorial: whether the U.S. Government might want to consider taking a break from endless warfare and spending more than the next 14 countries combined on weapons acquisition. The idea that there is a connection between the wars cheered by the NYT and its comrades and the liberal establishment, and the quality of life of ordinary Americans of the kind rarely seen by the paper's editors is not only ignored but rendered taboo. We'll explore this question further.

Then: French President Emmanuel Macron is responding to unrest and protests in his country the way Western governments these days do: by plotting to roll back basic freedoms and civil liberties. Yesterday he warned that France would shut down all social media in the event of similar protests of the kind that swept the country last week after a 17-year-old boy was shot and killed by police while driving without a license, and today French lawmakers authorized its domestic spying agencies to start using cell phone data to track the population  - specifically, reports Le Monde, "by remotely activating the camera, microphone and GPS of their phones and other devices." We'll examine these developments and the dynamic they raise.

Finally: several weeks ago, we reported that the U.S. intelligence community – the CIA, FBI, DHS and the rest – are purchasing what it calls "commercially available data" about Americans that is deeply invasive, enabling the collection of dossiers about our lives that are remarkably intimate and comprehensive. There's an update to that story: there's now a bipartisan bill pending that would ban the U.S. Security State from doing this. We'll tell you all about that.

As we do every Tuesday and Thursday, as soon as we’re done with our one-hour show here on Rumble, we will move to Locals for our interactive after-show to take your questions and comment on your feedback.

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For now, welcome to a new episode of System Update, starting right now.

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That the U.S. government and multiple state governments are devoutly loyal to Israel is hardly a secret. Anyone who pays even minimal attention to American politics knows that. The Trump administration has severely escalated this framework. The administration does not just send billions of dollars and massive amounts of arms to Israel, but they go much further: they have been routinely punishing American citizens and jeopardizing American interests to serve and protect Israeli interests. 

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I don't think people realize how many policies there are already in place in the United States that punish American citizens and deprive American citizens of certain benefits and certain rights if they'd refuse to either sign a loyalty oath to Israel, where they agree never to boycott the state of Israel, even though they're allowed to boycott every other country on the planet, even other American states, you just can't boycott Israel. 

There are also many programs that will dismantle crucial programs beneficial to American interests in order to shield Israel from criticism or to claim that, by allowing protest against Israel, an institution is being antisemitic. And it doesn't matter how valuable these programs are, if they're associated with an institution that Israel supporters dislike for having allowed some protests against Israel, they will dismantle and defund the program. Let's start with the second policy that happened on Friday night as an example, just to illustrate how extreme this has become. 

Here's Paul Graham, a very successful investor in Silicon Valley, who has been very supportive of Republican and conservative policies, but also quite outspoken about the Trump administration's financing of Israel. On August 3, 2025, he said this:

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 Terrence Tao is probably the most important and accomplished mathematician on the planet. Maybe there are two or three people who compete with him. He's an Australian American citizen. He works inside the United States, on research programs funded by the U.S. government, which the government funds because applied mathematics is one of the most crucial fields to all sorts of programs that the United States needs to compete with China, from AI and cryptography to detecting financial fraud or managing financial transactions. 

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The only programs they're defunding are ones that they claim are attached to institutions like UCLA, which they claimed are antisemitic. They claim that about Harvard, filled with Jewish students and Jewish administrators, five of the last seven presidents of Harvard are Jewish, yet somehow the Trump administration decided that's an antisemitic institution because they allowed protests against Israel. Same with UCLA. Anyone who knows UCLA knows how robustly represented Jewish students and Jewish faculty members are. 

Read here what Terence Tao said on his social media account about why this was done. This was on August 1. 

 Again, this is so ironic. The conservative movement spent a full decade mocking claims of racism, mocking claims that people on college campuses need anti-discrimination protection, then the Trump administration gets in and makes it one of their very top priorities to declare that there's a racism epidemic in the United States, but only against one group. There's only one genuinely marginalized, true victim group in the United States, and that's American Jews and the Trump administration has been doing everything, no matter how much it harms American citizens or American interests, to purge the world of this one form of bigotry that it claims has pervaded all American institutions. And it will sacrifice anything to do so. This is not new. This is just how extreme these things can get in the framework of American politics. 

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Stephen Miller's False Denials About Trump's Campus "Hate Speech" Codes; Sohrab Ahmari on the MAGA Splits Over Antitrust, Foreign Wars, and More
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One of President Trump's most powerful advisers, Stephen Miller, last night claimed that I had posted what he called "patently false" statements about the Trump administration’s policy. Specifically, earlier in the day, I had pointed out – and documented, as I've done many times – that the Trump administration has implemented a radically expanded "hate speech" code that outlawed a wide range of opinions about Israel and Jewish individuals and, even worse, that they have been pressuring American universities to adopt this expanded "hate speech" code on campuses to restrict the free speech rights, not of foreign students, but of American professors, American administrators and American students. It's a direct attack on the free speech rights of Americans on college campuses. 

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The policies in question, adopted by the Trump administration, especially these attacks on free speech on American college campuses through hate speech codes, are of great importance, precisely, since they do attack the free speech rights of Americans at our universities, and the actual truth of what the Trump administration should be demonstrated. So that's exactly what we're going to do tonight. 

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Sometimes, government policy is carried out with very flamboyant and melodramatic announcements that everyone can listen to and understand, but more often it's carried out through a series of documents, very lengthy documents, sometimes legal documents, that have a great deal of complexity to them. 

Oftentimes, when that happens, the government, if it has a policy or is pursuing things that are unpopular, especially among its own voters, can just try to confuse things by claiming that people's descriptions of what they're doing are untrue and false and trying to just confuse people with a bunch of irrelevances or false claims. A lot of people don't know what to make of it. They just throw up their hands because most people don't have the time to sort through all that. Especially if you're a supporter of a political movement and you hear that they're pursuing a policy that you just think is so anathema to their ideology that you don't want to believe that they're doing, you're happy to hear from the government when they say, “Oh, that's a lie. Don't listen to the persons or the people saying that. That's not actually what we're doing.”

Yet when that happens, I think it's very incumbent upon everybody who wants to know what their government is doing to actually understand the truth. And that is what happened last night. 

I've been reporting for several months now on the Trump administration's systematic efforts to force American universities to adopt expanded hate speech codes. Remember, for so long, conservatives hated hate speech codes on college campuses. They condemned it as censorship. They said it's designed to suppress ideas. 

Oftentimes, those hate speech codes were justified on the grounds that it's necessary to protect minority groups or that those ideas are hateful and incite violence. And all of this, we were told by most conservatives that I know, I think, in probably a consensus close to unanimity, we were told that this is just repressive behavior, that faculty and students on campus should have the freedom to express whatever views they want. If they're controversial, if they are offensive, if they are just disliked by others, the solution is not to ban those ideas or punish those people, but to allow open debate to flourish and people to hear those ideas. 

That is a critique I vehemently agree with. And I've long sided with conservatives on this censorship debate as it has formed over the last, say, six, seven, eight years when it comes to online discourse, when it comes to campus discourse, free speech is something that is not just a constitutional guarantee and according to the Declaration of Independence, a right guaranteed by God, but it is also central to the American ethos of how we think debate should unfold. We don't trust the central authority to dictate what ideas are prohibited and which ones aren't. Instead, we believe in the free flow of ideas and the ability of adults to listen and make up their own minds. 

That's the opposite of what the Trump administration has now been doing. What they said they believed in, Donald Trump, in his inauguration and other times, was that he wanted to restore free speech. Early on in the administration, JD Vance went to Europe and chided them for having long lists of prohibited ideas for which their citizens are punished if they express those views. And the reality is that's exactly what the Trump administration has been doing. 

I want to make clear I'm not talking here about the controversies over deporting foreign students for criticizing Israel. That's a separate issue, which is part of this discussion, but that's totally ancillary and secondary. I've covered that many times. That is not what I'm discussing. 

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