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Media Gloats Over Trump Indictment—Ignoring Dangers, Blinken Rejects Australia Demands to FreeAssange, & Worst Pro-Iraq War Journalist Promoted (Again), w/ Michael Tracey
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August 04, 2023
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Secondly, we are going to start introducing new features where we will begin much more frequently interacting with the commenters and the live chat feature that is here on Rumble, interacting with our audience and my readership has always been a very important part of how I've done journalism. We do have the live interactive aftershow every Tuesday and Thursday night that is devoted exclusively to interacting with comments, taking feedback and suggestions but we're going to start incorporating a lot more of that into the live program here on Rumble as well very shortly. 

For now, we just wanted to make a note that sometimes people go into the live chat and impersonate me by using various formulations of my name, and you should know that if it seems like I'm participating in the chat at the same time that I am speaking and reporting, live, here on the program, you should assume what probably is the obvious conclusion that that person is not me and is an impersonator. We've seen a few people falling for that. Don't fall for that, that is not me. But when we increase the interactive features of the chat, we will have a way for me to participate directly there, to interact on screen. We're really looking forward to that. 

And then, finally, as a programming note, although I'm not yet authorized to talk about the details, you may notice that I have here this secret new device, this device bequeathed to me great, great power. And you'll see it on my desk. You'll see me using it. As I said, I'm not authorized to speak about it. I don't want to have an indictment of the kind that Donald Trump got from Mar-a-Lago. But it is here, and I'm very ready to use it. 

For tonight's show, the fallout from Donald Trump's latest criminal indictment. His third so far, his third nightmare continues to unfold. Having had far more opportunity today than yesterday to delve into the substance of each aspect of the indictment, the frivolousness of these charges, as well as their dangers, have become much more manifest to me. But over the past 36 hours, since the indictment was unveiled, most of the corporate media, unsurprisingly, devoted very little to no time to examining or even allowing their audience to hear or read any of the criticisms of the indictment. Instead, they were in full-on gloating mode, barely trying to hide their utter glee and ecstasy over the fact that Joe Biden's principal political opponent and the man they long ago decided was the gravest threat to American democracies in decades – if not ever – was once again charged with crimes, this time in connection with an event they now regard as sacred, as having quasi-religious overtones: the “insurrection” of January 6. Some of the reactions were corrupt, but some of them are downright embarrassing when it came to the melodramatic pronouncements they were issuing about the sacredness and importance of this event. We’ll highlight both key dangers of this latest indictment, as well as the corporate media and the party they threw for itself in lieu of doing any actual criminal reporting on it. 

For that part of the show, we will talk to the supremely independent reporter, Michael Tracey, about this newest Trump indictment, about the political pressures that led to it and other topics as well, including the latest in the war in Ukraine. 

And then, Australia's Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, has spent the year publicly denouncing the Biden administration for what appears to be the United States' real determination to proceed with the extradition and prosecution of Australians. That is in Julian Assange and a series of comments that have become increasingly strident over the year. Prime Minister Albanese reflecting growing resentment among Australians over what even many Assange critics there perceived to be the now abusive and excessive persecution of him by the United States, has urged the U.S. government and the Biden administration specifically to withdraw the prosecution. “Enough is enough,” he proclaimed, in May. The Biden administration’s refusal to heed this request from an allied government and a friendly government at a center-left government is beginning to generate real tensions with this vital American ally. In a visit to the country over the weekend, Secretary of State Antony Blinken pointedly refused to consider dropping the charges, telling reporters in Australia that Assange stands accused of “very serious criminal conduct,” mainly journalism. In response, the Australian prime Minister, again, told reporters “This has gone on for too long, far too long. Enough is enough.” He accused the U.S. of using double standards in its treatment of Assange and prompting some rare but rather intense negative media coverage in Australia towards the United States. We'll report on these latest developments.

Then, America's corporate media loves to depict itself as the bulwark against disinformation, the heroic vanguards that keep you from being exposed to things that might deceive you. And yet, those who thrive and are most rewarded within these same media corporations are the people who lie most aggressively and casually, as long as they're lying on behalf of the U.S. security state and its agenda. The journalist who did more than any single American to convince Americans of the vital lie that Saddam Hussein personally participated in the planning of 9/11 – that lie was crucial to get Americans to support the invasion of Iraq, which ended up killing around a million people. That person is Jeffrey Goldberg. And for those lies that he told, he was promoted from the liberal journal The New Yorker, where he won journalism prizes for those articles in 2002 linking Iraq to al-Qaida, and then, became the editor-in-chief of the liberal journal The Atlantic. He should have been scorned out of decent society forever, and yet he became the editor of one of America's most influential liberal magazines funded by Steve Jobs’ widow. And, again, today, he's been promoted along with the remaining editor of The Atlantic. He'll now be the new host of PBS's Washington Week. It cannot be emphasized enough, while the corporate media endlessly warns of the dangers of disinformation to the point of demanding the power to censor the Internet to protect you from it, nobody spreads and rewards serial destructive lying more than these media corporations do. 

Finally, we have spent months telling you and reporting on the growing censorship regime in Brazil, both because it matters unto itself, given how huge Brazil is and how influential it is in our hemisphere, but also because Brazil is plainly being used as a laboratory by the EU, Canada and the U.S. to see how far Internet censorship can go. Today, Brazil's Supreme Court judge, who is the person largely responsible for the entire censorship regime, took another truly disturbing step in destroying the life and work of the podcaster who until two years ago, just two years ago, was Brazil's most popular and influential podcast host, regularly called the Joe Rogan of Brazil. His name is Monarch. We had him on the show in January to report on a censorship order that targeted him and other Big Tech platforms, including senators and Congress members who supported President Bolsonaro. And the court today opened a criminal investigation into Monarch, barred him entirely from using the Internet and find him 300,000 reais, the equivalent of $75,000 or so, entirely based on a claim that has never been tested in court, that has never been the subject of a trial, that he was spreading disinformation. That's the only allegation against him. They've now turned him into a criminal. And completely wrecked his life. It is disturbing and alarming in the extreme. And we'll show you where the censorship regime in the West is headed by looking at how despotic Brazil has become. And we are not that far away from it in the United States and certainly not in the U.S. where there are no First Amendment protections. 

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As the Daily Wire Publicly Negotiated a Debate with Candace Owens, it Secretly Sought -- and Obtained -- a Gag Order Against Her
Due to a prior restraint order against Owens, the much-anticipated Israel debate with Ben Shapiro appears to be off.

On April 5, Candace Owens publicly invited her former Daily Wire colleague Ben Shapiro to a debate about "Israel and the current definition of antisemitism." It was Owens' criticisms of U.S. financing of Israel, and her criticisms of Israel's war in Gaza, that caused her departure from the Daily Wire two weeks earlier.

Both Shapiro and Daily Wire CEO Jeremy Boreing responded by saying they would like to arrange the debate requested by Owens. That night, Shapiro appeared to accept her offer, writing on X: "Sure, Candace. I texted you on February 29th offering this very thing." The Daily Wire co-founder added: "Let's do it on my show this Monday at 5pm at our studios in Nashville; 90 minutes, live-streamed."

After Owens objected to the format and timing, she and Boreing exchanged several tweets in which they appeared to be negotiating, and then agreeing to, the terms and format for the debate. Owens had suggested the debate be moderated by Joe Rogan or Lex Fridman. Shaprio said he wanted no moderator. They ultimately agreed to the terms, with Boreing offering a series of conditions, including a no-moderator debate, and with Owens publicly accepting

Two weeks later, many readers of both Shapiro and Owens noticed, and complained, that the debate had not yet happened. On April 24, Owens addressed those inquiries by explaining that the Daily Wire had yet to propose dates, while reiterating her strong desire to ensure the debate happened.

But the debate was never going to happen. That is because the Daily Wire -- in secret and unbeknownst to its readers -- sought a gag order to be placed on Owens after she had called for a debate. They did this under the cover of secrecy, before a private arbitrator, at exactly the same time that they were claiming in public that they wanted this debate and were even negotiating the terms with her. To this date, the Daily Wire has not informed its readers, seeking to understand why the much-anticipated debate had not yet happened, that they had sought and obtained a gag order against Owens.

When seeking a gag order to be imposed on Owens, the Daily Wire accused her of violating the non-disparagement clause of her agreement with the company. To substantiate this accusation, the company specifically cited Owens' initial tweet requesting a debate with Shapiro as proof of this disparagement, along with concerns she voiced that Shapiro appeared to be violating the confidentiality agreement between them by publicly maligning Owens's views to explain her departure from the company. While the company claimed before the arbitrator that it did not object in principle to a "healthy debate," it urged the imposition of a gag order on Owens by claiming that the way she requested the debate constituted disparagement of Shapiro and the site.

To justify the gag order it wanted, the company also cited various criticisms of the Daily Wire and Shapiro on X that Owens had "liked." This proceeding took place as part of an exchange of legal threats between the parties after the public agreement to debate about Israel was solidified. Those threats arose from the fact that various Daily Wire executives and hosts, in both public and private, were castigating Owens as an anti-Semite. On March 22, Daily Wire host Andrew Klaven published a one-hour video that hurled multiple accusations, including anti-Semitism, at Owens. The Daily Wire cited Owens' response to that video -- her defense of herself from those multiple accusations -- as further proof that she needed to be gagged.

The initial tweet from Owens not only requested a debate, but also included a video from the popular comedian Andrew Schulz, who had mocked the Daily Wire for firing Owens over disagreements regarding Israel, and specifically mocked Shapiro for his willingness to debate only undergraduate students. The tweet underneath Owens's original debate request included a summary of Schulz's mockery of Shapiro which stated: Schulz now "realizes Ben Shapiro is only good at debating college liberals & can’t win debates against serious competition." 

After the prior restraint hearing sought by the Daily Wire and Shapiro, the arbitrator sided with them and against Owens. The arbitrator agreed with the Daily Wire that Owens' call to debate Shapiro, and her follow-up negotiations of the debate, constituted "disparagement" of the company and Shapiro. The company argued that any further attempt by Owens to debate, as well her suggesting that the debate would expose the Daily Wire's real "priorities," constituted criticisms of the site and of Shapiro, criticisms that the arbitrator concluded Owens was barred from expressing under her contract with the company.

The arbitrator thus imposed a gag order of prior restraint on Owens. Among other things, the order banned Owens from saying or doing anything in the future which could tarnish or harm the reputation of the Daily Wire and/or Ben Shapiro. Given that the Daily Wire had argued, and the arbitrator agreed, that Owens' offers to debate Shapiro about Israel and anti-semitism were themselves "disparaging," the Daily Wire has ensured that the debate with Owens that they publicly claimed to want could not, in fact, take place. Any such debate would be in conflict with the gag order they obtained on Owens from expressing any criticisms of the site or of Shapiro.

When asked for comment to be included this story, Owens replied: I "wish I could comment on this but I can’t." She added: "can neither confirm nor deny."

Boreing said: "your story is inaccurate to the point of being false," though he did not specify a single inaccuracy, nor did he deny that the Daily Wire had sought and obtained a gag order on Owens at the same time they were publicly posturing as wanting a debate with her. The confirmation we obtained of all these facts is indisputable. Boreing added: "I’m sure you can appreciate how fraught a high profile break-up like this is. For that reason, we are trying to resolve our issues with Candace privately."

It certainly seems true that the Daily Wire is attempting to achieve all of this "privately." Nonetheless, Ben Shapiro has constructed his very lucrative media brand and persona based on his supposed superiority in debating, a reputation cultivated largely as a result of numerous appearances at undergraduate schools around the country where he intrepidly engages with students who are often in their teens or early twenties. Both Shapiro and the Daily Wire have also predicated their collective media brand on an eagerness to engage in free and open debate with anyone, and to vehemently oppose any efforts to silence people, especially those in media, from expressing their political views.

It was the imperatives of this media branding that presumably led the Daily Wire and Shapiro to publicly agree to a debate with Owens over Israel and anti-semitism in the first place. Indeed, when it became apparent early after the start of Israel's war in Gaza that Owens had major differences with Shapiro, Boering responded to calls from Israel supporters for Owens to be fired by proclaiming in November: 

[E]ven if we could, we would not fire Candace because of another thing we have in common - a desire not to regulate the speech of our hosts, even when we disagree with them. Candace is paid to give her opinion, not mine or Ben’s. Unless those opinions run afoul of the law or she violates the terms of her contract in some way, her job is secure and she is welcome at Daily Wire.

But a mere four months later, Owens, despite being of one of the company's most popular hosts, was out. The company had concluded that her increasingly vocal criticisms of Israel, opposition to U.S. financing of it, and her views on anti-semitism were incompatible with the Daily Wire's policies.

All of those issues would likely have been the subject of the public debate that Owens sought, and that the Daily Wire claimed to want. Instead, the Daily Wire has succeeded in obtaining a gag order that, on its face, prevents Owens, in advance, from questioning or criticizing both the Daily Wire or Shapiro in any way.



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