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November 05, 2023

We are pleased to send you several articles that summarize the key stories we reported and analyzed last week. These are written articles containing key excerpts of the reporting and analysis we did on last week's episodes of SYSTEM UPDATE.

—Glenn Greenwald


MONDAY, OCTOBER 30 - SYSTEM UPDATE 173

INTERVIEW: John Mearsheimer on Israel-Gaza, U.S. Support for Ukraine, & the Role of “America First” Foreign Policy

Professor and Author John Mearsheimer once again joins Glenn for an in-depth discussion on the Israel-Gaza war, U.S. foreign policy, Ukraine, and more. 

Last June, we interviewed Professor John Mearsheimer, who is widely heralded as one of the most influential foreign policy scholars in his field. He is the Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of International Relations at the University of Chicago, and the co-author, along with Professor Stephen Walt, who we also just had on our show, of the 2006 book “The Israel Lobby,” which seeks to explain why steadfast support for Israel has been a bipartisan policy in Washington for decades. 

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That interview with Prof. Mearsheimer became one of our most watched programs, in part because he brings such a necessary counterbalance to the predominant narrative about US foreign policy— challenging the establishment consensus that we should fight one war after the next. It was focused on the war in Ukraine, our relationship with China, the threat of multipolarity, and whether it will replace U.S. hegemony. This time, we focused on the new war between Israel and Gaza, the U.S. support for that war, as well as some recent updates on the war in Ukraine and how these two wars interact. 

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Professor Mearsheimer offered an interesting perspective on how we ought to think about American foreign policy as we now are involved in two major wars, with risk of escalation in each, and the reasons why America seems instinctively—every time a new war is offered—to involve itself in it. This discussion was genuinely illuminating. 

 

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WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 1 - SYSTEM UPDATE 174

Interview With Roger Waters: Musical Genius, Political Activist, Accused Anti-Semite

A global rockstar and musical genius. A committed political activist and fierce critic of U.S. global policy. An accused antisemite. Roger Waters joins us for a wide-ranging, fascinating discussion on his life, career, and worldview.

The musician Roger Waters doesn't need much of an introduction. His band, Pink Floyd, is one of the most successful and influential in the history of rock. Albums like “The Dark Side of the Moon” and “The Wall” are among the best-selling and most well-known albums in the last six or seven decades. But Waters is often at least as well-known these days, if not more so, for the political stances he takes. 

He has certainly become an extremely controversial figure, especially over the last couple of years, as he has been an outspoken voice against the U.S. and NATO war in Ukraine and a constant critic of the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. He has become widely vilified in Western media circles and establishment institutions of media as being an extremist, as being an antisemite. Essentially, every term that could be cast on him, including pro-Russian and pro-Kremlin, has been applied to him as a means to discredit him.

He was recently in Brazil, including Rio de Janeiro, where he is performing as part of his global tour and we were able to sit down with him in our studio for a fascinating discussion about many different issues, both political and personal. 

We first met when he came to Rio Janeiro in 2018 as part of his tour. I was able, along with my husband, David Miranda, to spend a fair amount of time with him during the week that he was in Rio and got to see a side of him that I think most people don't see, especially those who are subject to the sort of vilification campaign that he has. It shed light for me on how to think about, understand, and process the views of Roger Waters. And I wanted to sit down with him so that those of you who watch the show could hear the same sort of perspective, the same kind of reasoning, and where his views are coming from. 

We spent some amount of time talking about things like the Israeli war in Gaza and the role of the U.S. and the West in supporting it, the ongoing war in Ukraine, and a little bit about the war in Syria, but a lot of it too was about his musical career. We discussed at length the reason why he has decided to enter these very choppy and controversial political waters, and what it is that compelled him. It has resulted in a lot of difficulties for him and career loss, including the loss of a contract with his media company, and criminal investigations in Germany that tried to claim that his performance of The Wall, which was always a satire of tyrannical despots. Germany claimed it was somehow a glorification of Nazism, only for that to spread, including into Brazil, where the Brazilian government warned him that if he came here and tried to perform The Wall with that uniform, he could run afoul of Brazilian law and would have federal police agents at his shows making sure that he complied. The Brazilian government eventually backed off on that.

Roger Waters has been a person who has been kind of a lightning rod on a variety of issues that we cover here in our show, including free debate, the weaponization of antisemitism, and what happens to you when you oppose American wars and Western foreign policy. And I really did not expect the interview to go the way that it did. He was very reflective, very contemplative, and, in a very honest way, oftentimes emotional. It was an interview that I enjoyed conducting. 

 

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FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 3 - SYSTEM UPDATE 175

Did the CIA Kill JFK? Leading Expert David Talbot on Allen Dulles, Kennedy’s Assassination, & the Rise of America’s Secret Government

David Talbot, founder of Salon and author of “The Devil’s Chessboard,” explains the rise of the CIA and U.S. security state, his view that they were involved in JFK’s assassination, and much more.

David Talbot is an investigative journalist, historian, and author of “The Devil’s Chessboard”, a book that I consider to be one of the most important ones for anyone interested in understanding more about the history of the U.S. deep state and how it operates. It is the definitive account of the history of the CIA and  U.S. security state, from its creation by Harry Truman to the Leviathan that it is today. 

Talbot also played a significant role in the establishment of the internet as a place for political journalism. He was the founder of the online magazine Salon, which along with Slate was one of the first online political magazines available in the early days of the Internet. With the success of Salon, David Talbot became a crucial figure in democratizing the field of journalism, allowing independent work to reach large audiences without needing The New York Times or NBC. It revolutionized the way in which political journalism could be done online and became Glenn’s journalism home from 2007 until 2012. 

Our discussion largely centered on the content of this book, with David providing evidence for his view that Allen Dulles, the CIA director for nearly a decade who transformed his agency into a secret arm of U.S. government power at home and abroad, was involved in planning and executing the assassination of John F. Kennedy, as a retaliation for having made moves to limit the power and reach of the CIA. The discussion is as interesting and thought-provoking as it sounds.

 

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U.S. and Israel vs Iran: Repeating War on Iraq Scripts; Overwhelming Bipartisan Consensus for Israel's Wars
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The war initiated by Israel against Iran last Thursday was dangerous from the start and has each day only become more dangerous. President Trump has boasted of his pre-war coordination with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. He's already been using U.S. military assets to protect Israel. He's now even re-deploying aircraft carriers in the Pacific, where we're told they are guarding against America's greatest enemy – China – now to the Middle East, where Israel has demanded they go to support its war. 

Just a few minutes ago, President Trump ordered the 16 million people who live in Tehran to immediately evacuate a city where it's now 2 a.m. 

With Israel, as always, demanding more. Now, they want the U.S. planes and bombs to destroy Iran's underground nuclear facilities for them. The former Israeli defense minister went on CNN just an hour ago and told President Trump in the U.S. that it's our obligation to fight this war with them. And for them, President Trump has repeatedly opened the possibility of even greater U.S. involvement in the war. 

There are so many aspects of this new conflict worth covering and dissecting –and we will do so throughout the week – but tonight we want to focus on the amazing ease the U.S. government has in convincing its population to support whatever new war is presented to it. Over four years ago, intense war propaganda from the U.S. political class and media persuaded Americans to want to fund and arm the war in Ukraine – a war that is still dragging on with no favorable end in sight – and overnight huge numbers of people in the United States have suddenly become convinced without having ever said so previously that war with Iran is some sort of moral imperative as well as a strategic necessity for the survival of American citizens of the United States. 

No matter how debunked, discredited and disgraced that Iraq war narrative has become, as long as one just waits 20 or 25 years, then, apparently, that same script just works like magic all over again. You just haul it out, fearmongering, and huge numbers of people respond by saying, "Yes, let's go to war, let' kill people." 

We'll examine all of that, as well as the standard bipartisan unity in support of new American wars and especially wars involving Israel, you hear Democrats almost unanimously, either staying quiet or praising President Trump, with just a few exceptions from both parties. And we'll look at that as well. 

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If you're an American citizen as an adult, you have seen the United States repeatedly go to war. Anyone 18 or over has seen the United States involved in all sorts of wars and that's after the Iraq war, which is now 22 years ago. Essentially, if you're American, it means forever, for a long, long time, for many decades, that you are a citizen of a country that's always at war. 

After World War II, there was a very visible and clear pattern, which is that the U.S. government convinces its citizens, enough of them, to support the war at the beginning. They deluge them with war propaganda, which is extremely strong, primal, tribal and enough Americans initially support the war to let the U.S. government politically go and drop bombs or finance some other country to go drop bombs for it. Then, after six months, a year, or two years, or four years, polls show that Americans overwhelmingly oppose the war that they were convinced to support. Going back to the war in Vietnam, throughout the 1980s’ wars, the War on Terror in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Syria, in Libya, the financing of the war in Ukraine, Israel's destruction of Gaza, bombing Yemin and now this new war that the United States is becoming increasingly involved in, in lots of different ways and we're only on the fifth day.

You just see so many Americans on a dime the minute a new war is presented to them, with whatever pretext can be conjured, even if they're exactly the same pretext that most Americans lived through watching proved to be complete lies the last time it was used in 2003, even though it's exactly the same script, exactly the same pretext, coming from exactly the same people. You can get enough Americans to immediately stand up and start cheering for death and destruction and bombing. Not all, a very substantial minority oppose it, I think if the U.S. overtly gets even more involved in the war in Iran, obviously anything resembling ground troops entering Iran, but even perhaps prolonged bombing of Iran as well through U.S. jets and bombs, as President Trump has indicated and Israel has demanded, maybe some of that will erode, that support will erode. But all that's needed is enough support at the beginning of the war to let the government start it. And once the U.S. government enters the war, it doesn't matter anymore whether the people continue to support it; then it's just already done. All the normal arguments are assembled about why we can't stop, why we can't cut and run, why that would be appeasement, etc., etc. All the same scripts all the time, used over and over, and even though they get proven to be discredited, or unpersuasive, or full of lies, you just use the same ones each time. And that's how the United States stays as a country at war.

We've been hearing a lot of people saying, “Look, I'm happy that Israel is bombing Iran, as long as the U.S. has no involvement in the war, we don't enter it, we don't have to pay for it. As long as it's not our war, I'm fine with it.” But, of course, the entire Israeli military is funded by American taxpayers. Every time Israel has a new war, the weapons that it uses come from the United States, transferred to Israel. We pay for their wars, we arm their wars, we support diplomatically those wars and we use our military assets every single time and our intelligence apparatus to support and enable the war, as the United States is already doing. We already have multiple new U.S. military assets ordered to the region by President Trump. They're already active in protecting Israel from retaliation. President Trump openly said that he is considering the possibility of involving the U.S. even more directly in this war with Iran: "We're not involved in it. It's possible we could get involved. But we are not at this moment involved," the president said. (ABC News. June 15, 2025.)

That all depends on what you mean by ‘involved.’ We're paying for the war, we're arming the war, we've deployed military assets that are actively now trying to shoot down missiles coming from Iran as retaliation for the Israelis launching a completely unprovoked attack on Iran, based on the claim that Iran was about to get nuclear weapons, just weeks away, something they've been saying for 30 years, as we've shown you many times, same thing that was said in 2002. 

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U.S. Involvement in Israel's Iran Attack; the View from Tehran: Iranian Professor on Reactions to Strikes; CATO Analysts on Dangers and War Escalations

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Today's most important news is obvious: Israel last night launched a major military assault on Iran, targeting residential buildings in Tehran, where military commanders and nuclear physicists live with their families, as well as bombing multiple nuclear facilities throughout the country. 

Triumphalist rhetoric flooded American and Israeli discourse almost immediately, until just a little bit ago, when a barrage of Iran's ballistic and hypersonic missiles began hitting Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and other major population centers. Escalation seems virtually inevitable at this point. The level of escalation – always the most dangerous question when a new war has started – is most certainly yet to be determined. 

Then there's the question of the role of the United States and President Trump in all of this. News reports from both the U.S. and Israeli media suggested this morning that Trump was working hand-in-hand with the Israelis to pretend that he was still optimistic about a diplomatic resolution with Tehran, but did so only as a ruse to convince the Iranians that Trump intended to restrain Israel and thus lure Iran into a false sense of security when, in fact, Trump was not only green-lighting the attack but actively working with the Israelis to launch it. President Trump's own statements today proudly boasting of the success of the attack, along with his own concrete actions such as ordering U.S. military assets into position to yet again defend Israel, strongly bolster those reports and clearly indicate a direct U.S. involvement in this war between Israel and Iran, a U.S. involvement that already exists and will almost certainly continue to grow over the next few days and perhaps few weeks and even months. 

We’ll speak to Professor Mohammad Marandi, who is in Tehran and has heard and witnessed a lot of what happened but also has some unique analysis from his role as an American Iranian scholar of foreign policy and to scholars Justin Logan and Jon Hoffman, from the Cato Institute, one of the very few think tanks in the United States, which has long counselled restraint and non-interventionism in U.S. foreign policy. 

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Federal Court Dismisses & Mocks Lawsuit Brought by Pro-Israel UPenn Student; Dave Portnoy, Crusader Against Cancel Culture, Demands No More Jokes About Jews; Trump's Push to Ban Flag Burning
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In the first segment, we’ll talk about the victimhood narrative that holds that American Jews, in general, and Jewish students on college campuses in particular, are uniquely threatened, marginalized and endangered. One of the faces of this student victimhood narrative has become Eyal Yakoby, who is a vocal pro-Israel activist and a student at the University of Pennsylvania. 

In 2024, he was invited by House Republicans to stand next to House Speaker Mike Johnson and he proclaimed: I do not feel safe. He said it over and over. “I do not feel safe” has kind of become the motto for his adult life. Now, he seized on those opportunities by initiating a lawsuit against the University of Pennsylvania seeking damages for what he said was the school's failure to fulfill its duties to keep him safe. Mind you, he was never physically attacked, never physically menaced, never physically threatened, but nonetheless claimed that the school had failed to keep him safe and told the congress in the country that he did not feel safe. 

The federal judge who is presiding over his lawsuit, who just happens to be a Jewish judge, a conservative judge, appointed by George W. Bush, not only dismissed Yakoby's lawsuit as without any basis, but really viciously mocked it, depicting his claims as a little more than petulant entitled demands from a privileged Ivy League student who wants to not be exposed to any ideas or political activism that might upset him – sort of depicting him as the Princess in “The Princess and the Pea,” Andersen’s literary fairytale about a princess who's so sensitive to anything that might concern her, that she's even unable to sleep if there's a pea buried beneath the seventeenth mattress on which she sleeps. 

This judicial decision is worth examining not only for the schadenfreude of watching one of America's whiniest pro-Israel activists be exposed as a self-interested fraud that he is, but also for what it says about the broader narrative that has been so relentlessly pushed and so endlessly exploited from so many corners, insisting that the supreme victim group of the United States is, of all people, American Jews. 

Then: speaking of extreme entitlement, Barstool founder Dave Portnoy made quite a name for himself over many years by ranting against the evils of cancel culture, championing the virtues of free speech, and viciously mocking as snowflakes and as people who are far too sensitive anyone who takes offense at jokes, offensive jokes told by comedians. That is what made it so odd – yet so telling – when this weekend we watched the very same Dave Portnoy viciously berated one of his employees for disagreeing with Portnoy's insistence that while jokes about everyone and every group continue to be appropriate, there must now be one exception: namely, according to Portnoy, jokes about Portnoy's own group,  American Jews,  must now be suspended and deemed too dangerous to permit. 

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There have been really a lot of radical and fundamental changes, first on the political culture and then in our legal landscape as a result of the attack on October 7, and particularly the desire of the United States – by both parties – to arm the Israelis, to fund the Israelis, to protect the Israelis as they went about and destroyed Gaza. 

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