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The West, With New War in Hand, Tells Ukraine It’s Time to Negotiate—Two Years Too Late. PLUS: Interview w/ Harvard Students Targeted for Pro-Palestine Views
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November 08, 2023
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Good evening. It's Tuesday, November 7. 

Tonight: Even before war between Israel and Gaza broke out a month ago, it was clear that Western populations were becoming far less willing to fund Ukraine's hopeless war effort against Russia. A CNN poll in August found that a majority of Americans now oppose any further U.S. resources being used to fuel the war by selling it to Kiev while a candidate won the prime ministership in Slovakia, a longtime ally of Ukraine, by running on a platform of cutting off all funds to the war. For those who wanted to see it, the writing was on the wall for Zelenskyy and the Ukrainians that the West was ready to abandon Ukraine in this war. 

Now the U.S. and the EU have a new shiny war to fund this one in the Middle East, not in Eastern Europe, with a far more valued and politically potent ally than Zelenskyy in Kiev could ever hope to be. Everyone other than Zelenskyy has been strongly signaling, if not outright stating, that it's time to end this war and have Ukraine sue for peace. Multiple American news outlets long supportive of the war are now instead routinely publishing articles designed to prepare Americans and Ukrainians that the gravy train is coming to an end. Even President Zelenskyy, in a speech today, seemed to finally be accepting his fate as he pleaded with Americans to give him credit and loans, if America still wasn't willing to hand over more free money. 

All of this was as predictable as it is tragic. It was obvious that Joe Biden and the establishment wings of both parties in Washington could unite to make Ukraine's war America's war. It was obvious that this was how it would end. It was always the case that Ukraine would have to negotiate a peace deal with Russia, given that Russia is a much larger and more powerful country. The idea that Ukraine was going to win this war and expel Russia from its soil, let alone from Crimea as well, which they've held since 2014, was always a pipe dream. Ukraine and Russia could have negotiated a peace deal 18 months ago – in fact, both of those countries tried. But as many people have confirmed, including former Prime Minister Naftali Bennett and a former German prime minister as well, the U.S. intervened early on to block all negotiations because the real goal of the United States was never to defend Ukrainians in Ukraine, but rather to sacrifice them at the altar of their real goal, which was to use Ukrainians as pawns to weaken Russia in large part because so many Democrats are being filled with hatred and rage toward Moscow due to their belief that it was Putin who helped Trump win and Hillary lose, in 2016. 

So, here we are, almost two full years later, after the Russian invasion, Russia now occupies and controls roughly 20% of Ukraine. Tens of thousands of young and not-so-young Ukrainian conscripts have been killed fighting in what was always a futile war, at least tens of thousands. The U.S. has spent more than $100 billion of American taxpayer money to fuel and prolong this war. Those of us who stood up early and urged the diplomatic resolution were widely branded as “Kremlin agents,” sometimes put on official blacklists issued by Ukrainian government agencies, including Ukrainian intelligence. And here we have yet again a U.S. CIA war that was utterly pointless, that did nothing to benefit the American people – except those who work in the arms industry or the U.S. Security State – and that resulted in mass bloodshed and a waste of American resources. I'd like to say that Washington should learn a lesson from this, but the reality is that this was what D.C. and the EU foreign policymakers actually wanted, nothing more than prolonging this war for as long as possible, only to now have to force Zelenskyy to beg Russia to be satisfied with keeping 20% of Ukraine in exchange for ending the war. 

Then: we have been documenting since the start of the new war – not the one in Eastern Europe, but the one in the Middle East – how many of the tactics that American conservatives have spent years denouncing, specifically censorship and cancel culture, have been increasingly wielded to silence pro-Palestinian voices and to censor criticisms of Israel. Here, in the United States, I just did an interview yesterday with Tucker Carlson, and we will show you a part of it, where we discuss how conservatives on a dime seem to have abandoned their professed belief in free speech, in opposition to censorship and cancel culture – not all of them, but many of them – as soon as this new war involving Israel emerged. 

Tonight, we'll talk to two Harvard students, Amari Butler and Kojo Acheampong, who have been the target of widespread vilification campaigns, widely branded as anti-Semites, have their names put on a blacklist, their faces on trucks that drive around campus, accusing them of being bigots, and yet who have nonetheless continued to speak out about the war despite those threats, always supported their views on the Israel-Gaza conflict. We'll speak to them about what those views are and why they seem to be undeterred by these very serious threats led by billionaires to their reputations and their careers. 

For now, welcome to a new episode of System Update starting right now.

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