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Gaza Starves, Pro-Israel Propagandists Escalate Extremist Rhetoric and Actions
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April 30, 2025
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Whether one likes it or not, Israel and its various wars continue to shape and dominate American politics. That's so for multiple reasons: the U.S. pays for and finances Israel's military and wars, even though Israelis have a higher standard of living than millions of Americans who are forced to subsidize their society; the atrocities Israel has been committing in Gaza not only erodes their international standing around the world but America's as well, given that the whole world knows that none of what Israel is in Gaza would be possible without American support, and, perhaps most importantly, our domestic politics and our core free speech rights continue to be eroded in the United States in the name of protecting Israel and punishing its critics. 

Israel, like any country, has always had its share of violent extremists, including those who want to steal all of the West Bank, Gaza, and even parts of Lebanon and Syria for Israel. But those extremists have, in Israel, become rapidly mainstreamed or are at the highest levels of its government and the fruits of their extremism can be seen in the full destruction of civilian life in Gaza, as well as the ongoing annexation of land by their settlers’ movement in the West Bank and by their multiple wars in several countries in the region. 

As the true destruction of Gaza becomes globally undeniable and as two million Gazans now face the reality of mass famine due to Israel's refusal to allow any food or medicine to enter Gaza, no matter who sends it, the Israeli government but also their legion of loyalists in the United States, are becoming rapidly more extreme and repressive to justify all of this. 

It is contaminating not only Israel, but our own country.

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From the beginning of the war that Israel has been waging on Gaza following the October 7 attack, senior Israeli officials led by its then-defense minister, Yoav Gallant, have explicitly threatened that they intended to cut off all humanitarian aid from entering Gaza, including food, water, and medicine. This doesn't mean they're refusing to provide humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza, even though, as an occupying army, they are required to do so under international law. But no one expects that of Israel. It's Israel, they're not going to provide food, water and medicine to Palestinians in Gaza as they destroy their society. But they're doing something much more extreme, which is they're using their military, paid for by the United States and American workers and taxpayers, to block any aid from entering. 

There are humanitarian groups all over the world trying to put food into Gaza because generally the world considers it to be a singular atrocity to watch millions of people die of famine, a deliberately caused famine. You have countries trying to get aid and medicine, watching children have to undergo incredibly horrific surgeries with no anesthesia because it's just not available in the Gaza Strip. You've seen all the horror stories. Those are deliberately induced by a blockade that the Israeli military has imposed on Gaza, where they simply won't even let flour into the Gaza Strip. And as a result, it's no longer accurate to say the people of Gaza are in the brink of starvation or that mass famine is imminent. They're in the middle of it. There's essentially no more food left. 

Here from the BBC yesterday:

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A couple of things to note about this: first of all, the World Food Programme.  I've seen before any institution, any entity, any country, any government, any person, any journalist, any media outlet that criticizes Israel immediately gets labeled as antisemitic, as hating Israel. Anyone who criticizes Israel immediately gets called a racist; that's just the go-to tactic. 

The whole world, everyone's persecuting poor Israel. Even though the world's largest military and economy pays for their military, pays for their wars, all of Europe has stood up in defense of Israel, somehow, Israel is the poor little victim on the playground, constantly being bullied. You have all these U.N. organizations and Doctors Without Borders, people who do the most noble work of going around the world administering healthcare in the most dangerous way, all these institutions are immediately deemed antisemitic the first time they say anything negative about Israel. 

It's a little bit more difficult to do it in the case of the World Food Programme because its executive director is Cindy McCain, the widow of former senator and presidential candidate John McCain and the mother of media personality Megan McCain. The McCain family has been as steadfast, as extreme, as loyal in their support for Israel as basically anybody in Washington. I mean, to try to depict Cindy McCain as some kind of Israel hater! 

She was born into great wealth, she's using her platform to run the World Food Programme, which does work to alleviate famine wherever famine is found. She didn't take it as a platform to criticize Israel, much to the contrary, as I said, the McCain family worships Israel. As the executive director, she is duty-bound to report the truth, which is that there's no more food left in Gaza and they have no more food to distribute. All the stuff they were able to get into Gaza is now extinguished and exhausted and they're barred by the Israeli military from delivering more. 

Here is the World Food Programme itself on its X account yesterday:

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 I've seen people trying to claim, “Oh, this is a war, this is what happens in war.” No, it's just not true. Most wars do not entail the deliberate blockading and starvation of an entire population, in this case, composed of 50% of children, trying to starve them to death or face the risk of imminent death from starvation as a means to get their hostages back. Of course, just like Israel was bombing everywhere in Gaza, claiming that they were concerned by their hostages and ended up predictably killing a lot of the hostages. Obviously, if you bomb indiscriminately in the places that you know the hostages are, you're going to end up killing many of them, as happened. Similarly, if you starve an entire place to death, then there's no food to provide to the hostages either. And this is not something that the Israelis are doing by accident, or incidentally as a byproduct of war. Starving the two million people in Gaza to death is an explicit, open boast that Israeli officials, at least when they're speaking in Hebrew, and sometimes even when they are speaking in English, are very proud that they're doing on purpose. 

Here's a member of the Israeli Knesset, Moshe Saada. He was on a network called Middle East Eye, and they asked him about the people, including the children, who have no food in Gaza, and here's what he said: 

Video. MP Moshe Saada, Middle East Eye. April 27, 2025.

And this is not anomalous. There's nobody rising up in criticism of this MP. You may recall that there were videos that were leaked to the press showing Israeli soldiers gang raping helpless Palestinian detainees in the dungeons Israel keeps, when these soldiers were caught gang raping, anally raping, helpless detainee Palestinians, not only was there no revulsion in Israel, but members of the Knesset actually went and protested with all of their supporters outside where those soldiers were being held, demanding their release and you had people going on media saying, “There's nothing wrong with rape, rape is a perfectly legitimate weapon of war, these are not human beings we're dealing with, these are savages, they're not Jewish.” 

And this has been the ethos in Israel from the start. 

Here is the former defense secretary, Netanyahu has since fired him, Yoav Gallant. This was him on October 9, 2023, saying what the Israeli strategy will be:

Video. Yoav Gallant, X. October 9, 2023,

When South Africa brought its case against Israel for war crime violations to the International Court of Justice and the International Criminal Court, and now other governments have subsequently joined, their entire case basically existed out of statements by Israeli officials about what they intended to do in Gaza because Israeli officials have been saying the whole time, “We're going to keep food out, we're going to keep water out.” 

At some point, the U.S. was pushing a little bit for more humanitarian aid to get in and very basic food supplies were permitted to get in. But remember that when Trump facilitated the cease-fire in Gaza – which he and his envoy Steve Witkoff absolutely deserve credit for having facilitated, it was finalized one day before Trump's inauguration, he wanted there to be a cease-fire, he went around boasting and giving himself credit for the cease-fire – Netanyahu was saying to his country, “Don't worry, the Americans have told me this is not permanent. We're going to get some hostages back and then there's going to be no stage two of the cease-fire. We're never going to stage two. We're only going to do stage one and then go back to destroying Gaza.”

And that's exactly what happened. Stage one of the cease-fire agreement that Trump facilitated demanded the permitting of humanitarian aid, including food, water, and medicine, to enter Gaza, but the Israelis, before the cease-fire unraveled, refused to allow any such humanitarian aid to enter. 

And just by the way, given that the United States is still bombing Yemen every day – remember Yemen?  It's just a country that the U.S. government is just bombing intensively and consistently every day – when that cease-fire was signed, the Houthis said, “We're not going to attack any more ships now that there's a cease-fire.” It was only when the Israelis began violating the cease-fire by blockading basic humanitarian aid from entering did the Houthis said, “Actually, now we're going to resume our attacks, but only on Israeli ships, not on anyone else's, including Americans.” Yet, Trump restarted and escalated Biden's bombing campaign, even though the Houthis weren't attacking American ships. 

The much easier solution to bombing Yemen would have been to tell Israel, “You have to comply with the cease-fire deal, that Trump and Steve Witkoff caused to be agreed to by both sides in the Middle East,” but instead we're bombing the Houthis because we don't want to force Israel to allow food, water and medicine into this unbelievably beleaguered population. 

One of the most extremist ministers in Israel is the national security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, who is in the United States. Today, he went to Congress to speak to several of his employees who work there. Sometimes it's better to have meetings between your boss and the employees face-to-face. I mean, you can have it on Zoom, you can have it in lots of different ways, but, as every boss will tell you, it's good to have in-person meetings with the people to whom you're giving instructions. So, Ben-Gvir went to Washington today to visit Congress and do that.  

Ben-Gvir used to be such an extremist in Israel, and I don't mean like 30 years ago, I mean like a decade ago or less, that he was convicted of several terrorist crimes. He was the spearhead of this settler movement that every country in the world, including the United States, regarded a illegal. Every time settlements expand in the West Bank, it means that this dream of a two-state solution with Israel and a Palestinian state side-by-side living in peace became impossible, because Israel just kept eating up land. Ben-Gvir and others in the Netanyahu government, who used to be so on the fringes that they were actually in trouble with the law constantly, have now become mainstream in the government. This was before October 7. And Ben-Gvir’s view is that the Israeli military should be in the West Bank protecting the settlers as they expand. 

There used to be a view that at one point Israel was going to have to confront its settlers because the only way for Israeli survival was a two-state solution. Nobody believes in that anymore. So, Ben-Gvir is in Washington, in Congress, again, what the Israelis are doing, this is not fringe, marginalized views in Israel. These are the mainstream views of the Israeli government. They openly boast about the things they're doing. 

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The Jerusalem Post, in 2024:

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So, the IDF had worked with the Israeli police because a bunch of Israelis, including the extremists in the West Bank, went to the border with Gaza and blocked it. They took their kids, they took their entire families and they physically blocked the trucks with humanitarian aid from entering Gaza. They wanted to starve the population to death and the Israeli military worked with the Israeli police to try to remove protesters, these people blockading humanitarian aid from entering in Gaza, in part because the U.S. government was asking for humanitarian aid to enter Gaza, and so they wanted to have a minimal amount sent in and that's what Ben-Gvir was mad about: the police and the IDF were acting against these protesters. 

Just last month, March 23, 2025, as reported by JNS, the headline is “Ben-Gvir Urges Strikes on Hamas Food Reserves, Power Supply.” Obviously, “Hamas food reserves” are the food reserves of the 2 million people living in Gaza. He wanted to, deliberately, to attack whatever food was left that they found. 

Also obvious is that among the institutions that depend upon functioning electricity and cannot function without it are hospitals with people on respirators, people on life support, people who need all kinds of machines hooked up to them. If you cut off all electricity in Gaza and then continue to bomb them in the dark, not only are you killing a lot of people, but you're preventing doctors from treating the wounded or even feeding the wounded. And this is what they're all very happy to admit that they're willing to do and are doing, even as many of their supporters in Israel continue to insist it's fake news or antisemitic to point out that Israel is blockading all food from getting into Gaza. The Israeli officials just openly admit it. 

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There've been a lot of revelations over the last 25 years, since the 9/11 attack, of all sorts of secretive programs that were implemented in the dark that many people I think correctly view as un-American in the sense that they run a foul and constitute a direct assault on the rights, protections and guarantees that we all think define what it means to be an American. And a lot of that happened. In fact, much of it, one could say most of it, happened because of the fears and emotions that were generated quite predictably by the 9/11 attack in 2001 and also the anthrax attack, which followed along just about a month later, six weeks later. We've done an entire show on it because of its importance in escalating the fear level in the United States in the wake of 9/11, even though it's extremely mysterious – the whole thing, how it happened, how it was resolved. But the point is that the fear levels increased, the anger increased, the sadness over the victims increased and into that breach, into that highly emotional state, stepped both the government and their partners in the media, which essentially included all major media outlets at the time, to tell people they essentially have to give up their rights if they want to be safe from future terrorist attacks. 

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We are going to devote the show tonight to more questions that have come from our Locals members over the week. It continues to be some really interesting ones, raising all sorts of topics. 

We do have a question that we want to begin with that deals with what I think is the at least most discussed and talked about story of the day, if not the most important one, which is the school shooting that took place in a Catholic church in Minneapolis earlier today when a former student who attended that school went to the church, opened fire and shot 19 people, two of whom, young students between eight and ten, were killed. The other 17 were wounded, and amazingly, it’s expected that all of them are to survive. The carnage could have been much worse; the tragedy is manifest, however, and there is a lot of, as always, political commentary surrounding the mass shooting attempts to identify the ideology of the shooter in a way that is designed to promote a lot of people's political agenda. So, let's get to the first question.

 It is from @ZellFive, who's a member of our Locals community. He offers this question, but also a viewpoint that I think really ought to be considered by a lot more people. They write:

 

So, I'm really glad that this is one of the questions that we got today because this is a point I've been arguing for so long. So, let me just try to give you as many facts as I possibly can, facts that seem to be confirmed by law rather than just circulating on the internet. 

So, the suspected killer is somebody named Robin Westman, who is 23 years old. After they shot 19 people inside this church, killing two young children, they then committed suicide with a weapon. The person's birth name is Robert Westman, and around 16 or 17 years old, he decided that he identified as a woman, went to court, changed the legal name from Robert to Robin, and began identifying as a trans woman, so that obviously is going to provoke a lot of commentary, and there's been a lot of commentary provoked around that. We will definitely get to that. 

 

The suspected killer also left a very lengthy manifesto, a written manifesto which they filmed and uploaded on a video to YouTube, along with showing a huge arsenal of guns, including rifles and pistols and some automatic weapons. I believe various automatic rifles as well. I don't think they used any of those weapons at school. I believe they just used a rifle and a pistol, if I'm not mistaken. But we'll see about that. 

It was essentially a manifesto both in written terms, but then they also wrote various slogans on each of these weapons and various parts of the weapons. And we're going to go over a lot of what they put there because there's an obvious and instantaneous attempt, as there always is, to instantly exploit any of these shootings before the corpses are even removed from the ground. And I mean that literally. The effort already begins to inject partisan agenda, partisan ideology, ideological agendas to immediately try to depict the shooter as being representative of whatever faction the person offering this theory most hates or to claim that they're motivated by or an adherent of whatever ideology the person offering the theory most hates. And it happens in every single case. 

Oftentimes, there's an immediate attempt to squeeze some unrelated or perhaps even related agenda in and out of it instantly. Liberals almost always insist that whenever there's a mass shooting, it proves the need for a greater gun control without bothering to demonstrate whether the gun control they favor would have actually stopped the person from acquiring these weapons in the first place, whether they were legally acquired, whether they could have been legally acquired, even with gun control measures, it doesn't matter, instantaneously exploiting the emotions surrounding a shooting like this to try to increase support for gun control. Whereas people on the right often do the opposite. 

On the right, they typically will argue that more guns would have enabled somebody to neutralize the shooter more rapidly, that perhaps churches and schools need greater security. We need more police. So, there's that kind of an almost automatic and reflexive exploitation again, almost before anything is known, but there is an even more pernicious attempt to instantly declare that everyone knows the motives of the shooter, that they know the political outlook and perspective of the shooter. They know their partisan ideology and their ideological beliefs in an attempt to demonize whatever group a person hates most. 

This is unbelievably ignorant, deceitful and ill-advised for so many reasons. The first of which is that every single political action, every single ideological movement, produces evil mass shooters. For every far-leftist mass shooter that you want to show or white supremacist mass shooters that you want to show, you can show people who have murdered in defense of all kinds of causes. And so even if you can pinpoint the ideology of the shooter on the same day the shooting happened, I mean, you can develop a clear, reliable, concise and specific understanding of the shooter that you never even heard of until four hours ago, but you're so insightful, your investigative skills are so profound, that you're able to discern exactly what the motive of this person was in doing something so intrinsically insane and evil as shooting up a church filled with young school children. 

The idea that anyone can do that is preposterous on its face. I mean, the police always say, because they're actual investigators, actual law enforcement officers who want to collect evidence that stands up for public scrutiny and also in court, “We don't know yet what the motive is; we're collecting clues.” But almost nobody on Twitter or social media or in the commentariat is willing to say that. Everybody insists immediately, no, the killer was motivated by the other party, the opposite party of the one I'm a member of, or this ideology that's not mine, or in this religion that is the one I like the most to demonize. It's just so transparent and so blatant what is being done here. And yet it's so prevalent. 

I mean, you could go on to social media and principally the social media platform where the most journalists and political pundits, influencers and the like congregate, which is X, and I could show you probably 40 different theories offered definitively with an authoritative voice. Not like, hey, this might be possibly the case, but saying clearly, we know that the killer was motivated by this particular ideology, this particular set of beliefs. And I'm not talking about random X users, I'm talking about people with significant platforms, people who are well-known. 

I could probably show you 40 different theories like that, where every person is purporting to know definitively exactly what the motive of the shooter was and by huge coincidence they all have latched on to whatever ideology or faction or motive most serves their own political worldview to demonize the people with whom they most disagree, or whatever ideology or group of people they most hate. That's always what is done. And I guess in some cases, if a shooter leaves a particularly clear and coherent manifesto, and we have had those sometimes, we have had Anders Breivik in Norway, who made it very clear that his motive was hatred for Muslim immigrants who shot up a summer camp in Norway. We had the Christchurch, New Zealand killer who attacked two mosques and mass murdered dozens of Muslims at a mosque and made clear he was doing so because it was viewed that Islam is a danger. We had the mass shooter in a Buffalo supermarket, who made manifest their white supremacist views. We've had mass shooters who are motivated by hatred of Christianity, as happened in the Nashville shooter attack on a Christian school there, I mean, I could go on and on. 

As I said, every single political faction produces mass shooters, mass killers, evil, crazy people who use violence indiscriminately against innocents in advance of their beliefs. But most of the time, and you might even be able to say all of the times – I mean, maybe I don't like the phrase all of the times because you can conceive of exceptions, but close to all the time, most of the time, people who go and just randomly shoot at innocent people whom they don't know are above all else driven by mental illness and spiritual decay, not by political ideology or adherence to a political cause. That often is the pretext for what they're doing; that may be how they convince themselves that what they are doing is justified. But far more often than not, the principle overriding factor is the fact that the person is just mentally ill or spiritually broken, by which I mean just a completely nihilistic person who has given up on life and wants to just inflict suffering on other people because of the suffering that they feel or their suffering from delusions. 

And this isn't something I invented today. This is something I've long been saying. And I just want to make one more point, which is, even though there are sometimes manifestos that are extremely clear and say, “I am murdering people in a supermarket that is African-American because I hate Black people and I don't think they belong in the United States,” or “I believe that white people are the sole proper citizens of the United States and I want to murder and kill inspired by those other mass murderers” that I mentioned, even then, it may not be the case that the person's representation of what they're is the actual motive because it could be driven by a whole variety of other factors, including mental illness, or all kinds of other issues to be able to conclude in six hours, even with a crystal-clear manifesto that the person did it for reasons that you're ready to definitively assert are the reasons is so irresponsible. It's just so intellectually bankrupt. 

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